Small scale pressing?

Once you have cut a master laquer, you have metal stampers created and have records pressed from them. Discuss manufacturing here. (Record Matrix Electroforming- Plating, Vinyl Record Pressing.)

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Small scale pressing?

Post: # 8197Unread post Chris
Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:19 am

Is it possible to press on a small scale without the need for the large industrial presses like the toolex's?

I'm very new to all this, but I'm eager to learn about it, but like the guy in the other thread, I'm more into the audio side of things right now, and definitely don't have the infrastructure to run an industrial plant, based on what I've read is involved on here, but if there is a smaller scale option it would be nice to investigate.

I'm sure I read about manual presses on here, does that require the same kind of infrastructure?

Any info or references would be much appreciated :)

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Post: # 8199Unread post andybee
Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:03 am

if you want pressed records, you have to to the full
process (cutting, galvano etc.)thats arround 350 euro.

for a small run, let´s say up to 10 records, you can choose
cutting into plastic (30-40 euro each).

prices depend also on playing time.

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Post: # 8285Unread post Chris
Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:42 am

Cheers Andy,

I wasn't really after prices of pressing, more info about whether it's possible to get any sort of pressing set up running without the need for the big industrial presses?

I've read on here and other places about the individual cuts to plastic, so I know about those, just wondering if there was an alternative for shorter runs - not for getting things pressed for me, but for pressing things myself for other people at some point.....

As I say I don't have the know how or inclination to run a big industrial plant, but I would like to press up short runs if there is an alternative to the big presses.

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Chris

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Post: # 8286Unread post Aussie0zborn
Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:50 am

Hey Chris,

Short runs or long runs you need an industrial plant. Its like saying I want to make 4WD vehicles but dont want the full industrial plant as I just want to make them in small runs.

It aint gonna happen. You could ofcourse think about this....

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Post: # 8288Unread post Chris
Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:42 am

So there is no difference in the infrastructure you need to operate the automatic presses and the manual/hand presses I've seen mentioned on here?

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Chris

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Post: # 8289Unread post opcode66
Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:00 pm

as andybee stated you could have polycarbonate plastic discs cut for you in small runs or even as a one-off. each disc is individually cut. vinylium.ch or vinylrecorder.com.

as far as I know there is no such thing as a manual press. A record press is a large device that produces at least a ton of pressure.

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Post: # 8290Unread post opcode66
Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:01 pm

Aussie0zborn wrote:
It aint gonna happen. You could ofcourse think about this....
This just never gets old... :P

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SMALL SCALE PRESSING like this

Post: # 8292Unread post Tron
Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:44 pm

The answer is yes.
You still need all the basics of a big place.

Make no mistake about it running one press is still a major move.

you want something like this correct?

my45.de 7inch pressing plant vinyl

tell him how it goes to do something like this ANDYBEE....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91dYERnIS6A
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Post: # 8307Unread post Aussie0zborn
Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:47 pm

opcode66 wrote: ...A record press is a large device that produces at least a ton of pressure.
A ton??? Try a closing force of 100 tonnes.

Chris, take a tour of a pressing plant and save yoruself a lot of typing and al ot of questions.

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Post: # 8342Unread post andybee
Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:24 am

muaaaah, a new movie is in progress,
filmed in cinemascope 8)
can´t wait, to see it :!:

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Post: # 8361Unread post Aussie0zborn
Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:27 pm

Cinemsacope? We want 3D !!

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Post: # 8365Unread post andybee
Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:39 am

I think, the easiest way to press a record, is a manual press, o.k.
but you need also moulds, stamper, steam cooling water, a trimmer, extruder (maybe you can press into sheets)...
so a lot of equipment needed....
But maybe oneday, a better material can be used for pressing,
that don´t need so much pressure and heat to form and cool down...
any ideas? :roll:

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