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I'm looking for a vinylium manual.
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Boris
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Boris
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VC200 settings - VU meter
I'm new to the forum but seeking some information to help me better operate a recently acquired dubcutter system. i got the system used and with no training, so i'm figuring all this out with invaluable help from reading this forum. come to think of it, without this forum i would have had some serious/fatal crash landings already. just the fact that someone posted the manual is enormously helpful.
Specifically, I don't understand how to interpret the way the VC200 displays the land and width settings (which i understand to be in micrometers [um]) - can someone translate, or post a photo with an example of a given setting -- 400 micrometers, 800, etc, something like that would be great.
FYI, the speed reading makes total sense -- top row, fourth light = 4, bottom row, fifth light = 5, setting = 45 rpm, etc.
On a related note, I would love some specs or anecdotal information on what cutting time to expect on various formats and various speeds with the extreme settings for width and land (10 inch plate can hold X minutes at 45 rpm with maximum land setting and maximum width setting, or 10 inch plate can hold approximately X minutes with min land/ min width) or maybe i need to experiment and post the results myself.
thanks in advance for any replies!
Specifically, I don't understand how to interpret the way the VC200 displays the land and width settings (which i understand to be in micrometers [um]) - can someone translate, or post a photo with an example of a given setting -- 400 micrometers, 800, etc, something like that would be great.
FYI, the speed reading makes total sense -- top row, fourth light = 4, bottom row, fifth light = 5, setting = 45 rpm, etc.
On a related note, I would love some specs or anecdotal information on what cutting time to expect on various formats and various speeds with the extreme settings for width and land (10 inch plate can hold X minutes at 45 rpm with maximum land setting and maximum width setting, or 10 inch plate can hold approximately X minutes with min land/ min width) or maybe i need to experiment and post the results myself.
thanks in advance for any replies!
hello carter
then you have the older version of the vc200 panel.
it is just the engraving that changed. on later version
the information how to interpret the LEDs is there.
i try to get you the recent frontpannel print... then all makes sense.
i dont have it here right now...
there is plenty of hidden information .
you can even see how many cutting hours on your vc200
change parameters .....
f.
then you have the older version of the vc200 panel.
it is just the engraving that changed. on later version
the information how to interpret the LEDs is there.
i try to get you the recent frontpannel print... then all makes sense.
i dont have it here right now...
there is plenty of hidden information .
you can even see how many cutting hours on your vc200
change parameters .....
f.
kingston dubplatecutter vc-200 parameters..
ok here is
the actual frontpannel.
http://www.floka.com/pics/vc200_44_front.png
very easy from left to right 1,2,3,4.....
upper row are the ten's
lower row the ones...
on lower on the right it indicates which parameter you are watching.
RPM, speed of the turntable. it indicates which one you have set.because the vc200 has no sensor to detect.
LD. typicaly 20-30 um.
WH. with.. typically 60-70
TM. track mark time in 1/100s of a second so 90=0.9 seconds...
pretty much you can work perfect with the presets.
of course you need to verify if the groove with is 60-70 if set at this parameter....need a microscope with scale inside for that....
hope that helps.
the instructions how to change parameters and store them should be in the manual not sure. if not i will try to make a short summary....
flo
the actual frontpannel.
http://www.floka.com/pics/vc200_44_front.png
very easy from left to right 1,2,3,4.....
upper row are the ten's
lower row the ones...
on lower on the right it indicates which parameter you are watching.
RPM, speed of the turntable. it indicates which one you have set.because the vc200 has no sensor to detect.
LD. typicaly 20-30 um.
WH. with.. typically 60-70
TM. track mark time in 1/100s of a second so 90=0.9 seconds...
pretty much you can work perfect with the presets.
of course you need to verify if the groove with is 60-70 if set at this parameter....need a microscope with scale inside for that....
hope that helps.
the instructions how to change parameters and store them should be in the manual not sure. if not i will try to make a short summary....
flo
This is great, thanks.
The manual does explain how to change parameters, so I'm fine with that.
One thing I don't understand, however, is that the manual says to set groove width to double the depth. The depth is set manually, and it seems imprecise and there is no way to really measure this, so how do I really know the depth of a cut?
I have another issue that maybe I should post somewhere else, but the extreme left and right position of the cutterhead is limited by pins on each side that stop its lateral movement.
On the left, the pin that stops the cutterhead from going toward the center of the disc really prevents it from recording on a 7-inch record as far inward as many commercial releases are mastered (based on visual comparison). I'd estimate its a full minute of space. I'd have to measure but I'd guess it stops the head at least 75 mm to maybe a cm sooner than I'd like it to. Is there any way to modify this without risking damage to the machine? Why is it set where it is?
Ultimately, I'd like to do 7-inch cuts but I feel limited in terms of the length of the tracks I could cut with the system the way it is designed.
BTW, to my previous point, I did record slightly over 7 minutes on one side of a 10-inch last night. I can't remember where my settings were.
The manual does explain how to change parameters, so I'm fine with that.
One thing I don't understand, however, is that the manual says to set groove width to double the depth. The depth is set manually, and it seems imprecise and there is no way to really measure this, so how do I really know the depth of a cut?
I have another issue that maybe I should post somewhere else, but the extreme left and right position of the cutterhead is limited by pins on each side that stop its lateral movement.
On the left, the pin that stops the cutterhead from going toward the center of the disc really prevents it from recording on a 7-inch record as far inward as many commercial releases are mastered (based on visual comparison). I'd estimate its a full minute of space. I'd have to measure but I'd guess it stops the head at least 75 mm to maybe a cm sooner than I'd like it to. Is there any way to modify this without risking damage to the machine? Why is it set where it is?
Ultimately, I'd like to do 7-inch cuts but I feel limited in terms of the length of the tracks I could cut with the system the way it is designed.
BTW, to my previous point, I did record slightly over 7 minutes on one side of a 10-inch last night. I can't remember where my settings were.
Carter and others here
Here is a link with some standards of times size etc which where established many years ago so as to avoid such issues as posted here
http://www.aardvarkmastering.com/riaa.htm
Now if you stick to them you will find very little that people will complain about and I can assure you getting close to the centre on a 7" at 45 rpm its not a good idea
One can only get worst results by running a 7" at 33 rpm which is another NO NO even though you will see them around
Any way its up to you guys but one is better equiped if they are aware of what is acceptable as an established standard
Cheers
Here is a link with some standards of times size etc which where established many years ago so as to avoid such issues as posted here
http://www.aardvarkmastering.com/riaa.htm
Now if you stick to them you will find very little that people will complain about and I can assure you getting close to the centre on a 7" at 45 rpm its not a good idea
One can only get worst results by running a 7" at 33 rpm which is another NO NO even though you will see them around
Any way its up to you guys but one is better equiped if they are aware of what is acceptable as an established standard
Cheers
Chris
yes you can not go to standard diameter.
it is a compromise. the reason is the inner pully.which takes the chip.
the dubplatecutter was originally designed to cut acetate dubplates.
mostly 10 inch 12 inch.
mostly for a song or two. for dj use.
never to cut commercial masters.
so it was planned that the inner pully takes the chip. and it has a certain size.
you can modify that pully and adjust the stop screw . then it should be possible.
another thing is that the technics 1200/1210 has the motor magnet ring at this diameter.... and the magnets of the sc99 are so strong that it will start to change depht of the cut at this diameter..
so.there are a fe reasons the machine stops there...
it is a compromise. the reason is the inner pully.which takes the chip.
the dubplatecutter was originally designed to cut acetate dubplates.
mostly 10 inch 12 inch.
mostly for a song or two. for dj use.
never to cut commercial masters.
so it was planned that the inner pully takes the chip. and it has a certain size.
you can modify that pully and adjust the stop screw . then it should be possible.
another thing is that the technics 1200/1210 has the motor magnet ring at this diameter.... and the magnets of the sc99 are so strong that it will start to change depht of the cut at this diameter..
so.there are a fe reasons the machine stops there...
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