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oatwillie
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Looking for a vinylium lathe in USA

Post: # 7752Unread post oatwillie
Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:27 pm

Just what the title says. Additionally, I would consider a more professional lathe setup if it is complete or mostly complete and easily finished. I'm a newbie at cutting but I know my way around recording and mastering studios having been doing that for just shy of 30 years. I've been lurking and reading as a guest for a while and finally registered to start the search and post a bit.

Thanks!

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Post: # 7759Unread post andybee
Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:50 am

vinylium lathe?

I was the owner of a self built lathe, called the "stratozoo lathe", build
by flozki. good to start, and learn something :)
I sold the lathe some years ago, don´t know, whats happening...

IF you plan for the future, to cut masters, the vinylium kingston
cutter is a good choice.
You can upgrad the system to a pro lathe, and start with a technics
turntable.

good luck!
andreas

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Post: # 7760Unread post oatwillie
Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:39 am

I read Vinylium's notes on their site that said it can be upgraded to "professional". If you, or anyone else, have any information of what that actually is, I'd like to know any details. Stylus heat, vacuum system for chips, etc. I have sent them an inquiry regarding that aspect and am waiting for a reply. From reading here, it may typically be a while before I hear back from them if at all. In reading other places, there may also be a question of whether it is only in 240V/50Hz or if they make a 110-120V/60Hz power supply for the system.

I would also be open to considering a more sophisticated lathe as it would be worthwhile to cut lacquers for reproduction. Supposedly the Kingston is capable of that. Finding a decent older Neumann or Scully rig is more involved and more random than something in current manufacture like the Vinylium.

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Post: # 7761Unread post Aussie0zborn
Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:44 am

There was one for sale here only a week or so ago. I'm sure Vinylium will get back to you.

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Post: # 7791Unread post flozki
Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:29 pm

yes it's easy to upgrade. as long as you have luck to find a lathe and additional $$$$$$$$.

you just need another lathe. the kingston is made for beeing portable. to put on a turntable and then put it back in a case...not for professional mastering..

any kind.

example for presto 6n here:
http://www.floka.com/lofi/portable_lathe.html

example for presto 8dg:
ask martin from ameise for a picture....

example of upgrade with a neumann am32b and vinylium pitch98 and vinylium minicut here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPYiayl9qMM&translated=1
professional mastering and incredible half speed sound

example of upgrade with a neumann vms66 and vc200 plus external amps plus pitch98 here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrsqw-60PUs
professional mastering

example of neumann vms70 with vinylium sc-99 (special highend version, but basically same as on the kingston cutter) plus vinylium minicut here:

high end mastering
he cuts almost only audiophile stuff ..so that can not sound too bad...
there is an article in the book :
hifi tunes, from imagine hifi about cutting the imagine hifi LP008
i just scanned 2 pages but you can see the sc-99 head on the neumann:

check:
http://www.floka.com/pics/hifi_tunes1.pdf
http://www.floka.com/pics/hifi_tunes2.pdf
and better resolution and in color
http://www.floka.com/pics/hifi_tunes2.jpg


so just to point it out again. buy a kingston cutter. buy a better lathe and you got same or even better performance as a regular vms66 with sx68 and vg66. and that without any modifications.
and you beat any westrex system anyway..
(yes i know maybe i dont make good friends right now and prob. there will be endless discussion about how good a westrex sounds.it can sound great. but i have all that stuff and if you know the pain to reduce the 2nd 3th resonance on a westrex then you would be so f... happy to have a sc99.....)
and the best about sc99. its new. you can get it repaired with new parts. a total rebuild. and not just any kind of fixing....

if you invest a little more. use more powerfull cutting amps. better cabels from vc200 to the lathe...some mods....then you one step better

invest a little more get minicut and nice power amps. then you have high end on the audio side.
if you have all that
go and shop the pitch98 and you have vms80 performance...

yes it sounds like f..ing advertisment. but i dont get any $ for these words here...
just want to show you that there is a very good alternative.
there is new stuff out. you can upgrad to top.
the hardest thing would be to find a good lathe...

f.

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Post: # 7793Unread post oatwillie
Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:07 pm

thank you for the detailed reply.

yes, there are two main issues slowing me down :

1) a reply from vinylium...

2) finding a decent lathe for a better platform than the technics. that is going to be real trick to make happen.

i'm pretty patient, it's an acquired skill that will serve well in this endeavor.

still....... i wouldn't mind hearing from vinylium sometime in the not horribly distant future :D

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Post: # 7799Unread post piaptk
Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:31 pm

flozki wrote:
example for presto 6n here:
http://www.floka.com/lofi/portable_lathe.html
I am soooo jealous of that!

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Post: # 7802Unread post fraggle
Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:10 am

why don't you call em up?
very nice people.
cheers

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Post: # 8054Unread post stratdog99
Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:23 pm

PM'd.

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Post: # 8055Unread post oatwillie
Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:26 pm

PM replied

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