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Commercially-Oriented/Consumer-Crowdsourced ``Databases''

Post: # 57083Unread post diamone
Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:29 am

RE: Commercially-Oriented Consumer Crowdsourced ``Databases''
(and I use the term in quotes incredibly loosely) such as Discogs
and CD Baby and Musicverse and etc etc etc.

I joined it last year because guys on other forums were begging and
begging me to upload my huge collection of obscure formats and correct
the ones that were there.

Did a few last year got a couple quibbles from idiots and laid low til a couple mos ago.

Came back corrected a slew of wrong formats and incorrect information
and etc and got royally stomped on my the same idiots - all of whom roped
the equally idiot administration in to fight their cubicle warriors' battles for em.

Stood up for MY self and roped in other professional archivists from major
university and Government holdings who hold my same views - some of whom
told them to their face ``this is why your community-crowdsourced database
has been relegated to the realm of ``infotainment'' by any of the above.''

That and no serious archive has a ``Marketplace'' attached to it, nevermind
one that has admins that

1 arbitrarily remove negative sales feedbacks.

Not on me I would never patronize anything like that.
I just heard tell from everybody else that was stung both on Discogs as well as off.

All of whom promptly left - some after multiple large losses where buyers would
take their valuable item - ship back some thrift shop frisbee in a different version
of the same album cover and charge Item Not as Described same as on eBay.

2 plays favorites with some sellers and buyers and not others.

Their admin had a meltdown especially after I said ``Amazon is rumoured
to be taking over the Marketplace sections of Discogs and all the other
consumer-crowdsourced ``databases'' (and I use the term very loosely)''

3 allows anybody and everybody to upload their collections

4 has 10,000 individual listings for the same album instead of merging
them all together like e.g. Archive.org

5 have their Nazi Police that has nothing better to do all day long than
sit there and quibble about things no serious archivist would care about

6 run off everybody that knows more than them and can prove it without
posting a warning on their homepage ``Hostile to Archivists, Researchers,
Library Science and Every Other Type of Non-Commercial Industry Professional.

All you have to do is look around the rest of the Web on other discussion forums
and Sub-Reddits and so on and so on to find out how bad these people are.

So whoever is on there and is NOT a normal run of the mill consumer (or
even if you are) and getting tangled up in their BS web and getting the same
harangues as me and every other academic or specialist, I say there should
be a big yellow sign on the front page that says ``Beware of Process-Oriented
People*/Cubicle Warriors and Other Idiots.''

*Process Orientation is like New Math.

Nobody cares what the answer is, only that you can prove you followed the
steps exactly. if a LOT of people follow the steps exactly and still get all the
wrong answers - then the process and or its' composers are blamed - who in
turn blame their administrations for telling them to do it - who in turn blame
the researchers who told the administrations they need to develop it - who
n turn blame the university chancellors ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

Same with every other commercially-oriented consumer-crowdsourced database.

I never thought hundreds and hundreds of sub-Reddits and other venues would
be right - but soon after this started I started looking around the Web and it's
truly amazing the huge number of people who are bashing on the commercially
oriented and consumer-crowdsourced databases.

So if you are NOT on already, don't go and if you ARE on any of
`em, if you're smart, you'll leave before it happens to you and then
(tone of voice like Barry Manilow spoken intro ending in VSM Live)
``and then you can turn off your radios and televisions and...'')
do like I did and go bellyache about on all the other forums and sub-reddits or
(tone of voice like mother Hilda Hensley in The Patsy Cline Story)
``Maybe if you screamed and clawed your face maybe that'd help.''

As Clint Eastwood said (Dirty Harry): I Just Want the Truth
As Jack Nicholson said (A Few Good Men): You Can't Handle the Truth
As Tommy Lee Jones said (Coal Miner's Daughter): Most people can without they learn how first.

We now return you to your regularly-scheduled daily boredom.
2 Kinds of Men/Records: Low Noise & Wide Range. LN is mod. fidelity, cheap, & easy. WR is High Fidelity & Abrasive to its' Environment. Remember that when you encounter a Grumpy Engineer. (:-D)

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