Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby timmy1 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:37 pm

Angus McCarthy wrote:Oh, you mean a Dictation Machine.

Well, assuming you can find a model with a spindle that would let you fit a CD, and as long as you have a good embossing stylus, it should be quite possible.

On a wilcox gay recordette can you modify them to record at 45 speed?
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby Angus McCarthy » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:49 pm

I'm not sure about the Recordette, but on my Recordio there is a way to reduce the platter speed from 78rpm down to about 38rpm.

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Remove the platter and you should see the drive assembly. (I don't know if it's the same on a Recordette but it's probably pretty close) The drive shaft/capstan has a collar attached to it. Loosen the set screw and remove the collar. This should lower the speed of the platter to near 38rpm. Then, when you record onto your disc, slow down your source audio by 84.4% and it will play back at 45rpm!
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby timmy1 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:40 pm

Thank you when I get the lathe I want to try recording on solo picnic plates with a fine needle and see how it will play on a 45 record player.
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby Steve E. » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:01 am

Tim, this thread on a different board mentions a wilcox-gay recordette that was three speed! I don't know if that is true of the one you are buying. unfortunately nobody mentions a model number here.

http://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=136497
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby Steve E. » Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:43 pm

Do you mean a soundscriber? I've never known what speed those recorded at. anyone know?
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby Angus McCarthy » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:09 pm

timmy1 wrote:Thank you when I get the lathe I want to try recording on solo picnic plates with a fine needle and see how it will play on a 45 record player.


You actually don't want to use a sharp needle to emboss - you'l just end up scratching a gouge through the plastic. The idea is to press a groove into the surface. If you have any old, worn-down cutting styli you can sometimes get them to emboss by flipping them around backwards. Otherwise try sanding down the point on a gramophone needle to give a softer, more rounded tip.
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby timmy1 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:46 pm

On a wilcox recordettte that has one speed can you put the 3 speed assembly mechanism from a newer recordette on to the 1 speed recordette thanks
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby Angus McCarthy » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:53 pm

I'm not sure why you'd want to. If you have a 3-speed Recordette why not just restore that machine?
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby timmy1 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:54 pm

I don't have a 3 speed one but if I can get parts from one I was refering to
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby Angus McCarthy » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:18 am

It's very doubtful you'd be able to find just the transmission from a specific model like that - especially one that did not go through as many model years as the earlier single- and double-speed models. This equipment, though not impossible to find, is not as common as it once was.
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby timmy1 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:18 am

On a crosley made in the 40's can they be modified to record at 45 speed?
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby timmy1 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:29 am

How much should I have to pay for a working wilcox gay recordette supposeding working
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby Angus McCarthy » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:27 pm

If it's fully restored, I've seen a Wilcox-Gay go anywhere from $200-$400.
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby timmy1 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:44 pm

A person has one he did not restore it but he says it works and he wants 350.00 for it. thanks
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby timmy1 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:25 pm

I found a 3 speed wilcox record player and would the speed mechanism fit a recordette machine?
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby Angus McCarthy » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:52 pm

Timmy, if you have found a 3-speed Recordio just restore that one. The Recordette was not the best machine even when they were new, honestly.
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby timmy1 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:52 pm

Angus McCarthy wrote:Timmy, if you have found a 3-speed Recordio just restore that one. The Recordette was not the best machine even when they were new, honestly.

The trouble with finding another machine the other ones are very high in price.
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby timmy1 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:31 pm

I bought a recordette and I found out the on off switch is stuck and won't turn. Would it be okay to take the knob off the shaft and spray a little pb blaster around the shaft and let it sit?
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby timmy1 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:48 am

The on off knob is no good so I have to try to find another one to replace the switch.
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Re: Record Lathe Question:45 lathe?

Unread postby timmy1 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:39 pm

I had a friend come over he looked at the recordette. He said on 1 circuit he was tracing, calls for a 2 k resister and from what he saw there was a 10 k resistor
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