Pressing Blanks from pvc Compound

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Pressing Blanks from pvc Compound

Post: # 33790Unread post leethal
Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:57 am

A forum search turned up very little for me so I'll ask the great unwashed. Has anybody attempted pressing blanks for lathing from pvc compound? Seems like a great way to make a few dollars, and cheaper than the better alternatives I've seen ie souri etc I'm wondering why pressing plants dont do this already....Surely the sound quality would e better than cnc'd poly and acrylic.

What do you think would be critical/prudent when attempting blank plates? Silvered and nickeled stampers copied from a disc of glass? Or simply a highly polished disc of stainless steel?

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Re: Pressing Blanks from pvc Compound

Post: # 33791Unread post The Shank
Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:06 am

leethal wrote:Surely the sound quality would e better than cnc'd poly and acrylic.
Why?
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Re: Pressing Blanks from pvc Compound

Post: # 33792Unread post leethal
Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:07 am

Well because it would be the proper pvc compound containing conditioners and such, without the inpurities of regular plastic...

of course I could be wrong but thats what this discussion is all about, fleshing out the experiences and intuitions of others

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Re: Pressing Blanks from pvc Compound

Post: # 33793Unread post The Shank
Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:52 am

Co-extrusion is needed to get the best blank for cutting. No way to do that with a press.
At best you would get a product that would ruin your stylus after few cuts (if not at the first cut)... And forget to do that with sapphir.
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Re: Pressing Blanks from pvc Compound

Post: # 33794Unread post leethal
Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:43 am

Interesting, could you elaborate on what 'co-extrusion' is please?

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Re: Pressing Blanks from pvc Compound

Post: # 33795Unread post The Shank
Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:27 pm

Google is your friend :

Coextrusion is the extrusion of multiple layers of material simultaneously. This type of extrusion utilizes two or more extruders to melt and deliver a steady volumetric throughput of different viscous plastics to a single extrusion head (die) which will extrude the materials in the desired form. This technology is used on any of the processes described above (blown film, overjacketing, tubing, sheet). The layer thicknesses are controlled by the relative speeds and sizes of the individual extruders delivering the materials.

In many real-world scenarios, a single polymer cannot meet all demands for an application. Coextrusion allows for mediation of this problem, optimizing a wide range of properties such as oxygen permeability, strength, stiffness, and wear resistance.
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Re: Pressing Blanks from pvc Compound

Post: # 33802Unread post leethal
Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:24 am

Are you saying that a single layer of pressed pvc compound will over harden/be too weak/retain oxygen/break stylis?

I would have guessed that it would be a suitable cutting medium, up til a certain date when it hardens....

I believe what you are telling me, but it seems counterintuitive. Well that answers my question about plants not making them.

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Re: Pressing Blanks from pvc Compound

Post: # 33984Unread post tragwag
Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:33 pm

also keep in mind the contour of pressed blanks.
you would need a "flat" pressed blank.
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Re: Pressing Blanks from pvc Compound

Post: # 33997Unread post leethal
Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:07 am

Excellent point, I suppose a thicker plate omitting the label detent would be prudent

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Re: Pressing Blanks from pvc Compound

Post: # 34005Unread post opcode66
Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:16 pm

The shape of the label area is a result of the part that holds the plate in the press. Not sure that can be eliminated....
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