help design cutting head

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mango
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help design cutting head

Post: # 25343Unread post mango
Sun May 12, 2013 9:55 am

Hello everyone :D , I introduce myself I'm a sound engineer and I wanted to start building my lathe to affect the plesiglas.
but first I wanted to see how well made and a thumb cut (I was thinking of using a plotter blade heated)

sorry for my bad English :roll:

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mango
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Re: help design cutting head

Post: # 25347Unread post mango
Sun May 12, 2013 2:33 pm

Ok thanks to this wonderful video I was able to understand how to behave the needle now I have to figure out how to build it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq2sjGFvNnM

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Re: help design cutting head

Post: # 25354Unread post Angus McCarthy
Sun May 12, 2013 4:39 pm

Welcome! There are several examples of home-built stereo heads on the forums here. The most common way to construct one seems to be based on linking two small but powerful speakers to a torque bar which holds the cutting stylus.

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Re: help design cutting head

Post: # 25365Unread post mango
Mon May 13, 2013 5:02 am

You can follow the project of someone who clearly explains how to build it?
According to you it is more convegnente try to affect the plexiglass or buy vinyl virgins?
Where can I buy vinyl records?
Cutting tip that you advise me to use? I can use a blade plotter? a sewing needle? or should I buy one on purpose?
Sorry for the flood of questions, but right now I have the brain messed up :?

Angus McCarthy Thanks for the reply I'm sure you'll find in this forum everything I look for

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Re: help design cutting head

Post: # 25394Unread post mango
Tue May 14, 2013 6:23 am

what kind of reels you advise me to use? low? med? hig? full reing? db? w?

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Post: # 25396Unread post dimi751
Tue May 14, 2013 7:38 am

hi mango

this is my first post, i have a vinylrecorder and it has tweeters on the cutterhead, maybe you can use tweeters?

dim

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Post: # 25402Unread post mango
Tue May 14, 2013 9:35 am

It just dim but that response rates to? that voltage? and how much pressure he puts sound?

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Post: # 25417Unread post Angus McCarthy
Tue May 14, 2013 3:38 pm

I think most posters on the forum here have dabbled in building their own cutting or embossing head at one point. My first experiments involved gluing a sewing needle to the face of a small tweeter and attempting to emboss onto plastic sheet. I was not very successful, but I learned a lot from the process.

Mango, the specifics of how you build it is up to you, depending on what parts you can find. I can say that you will want strong coils with decent wattage, not cheap little ones out of a set of computer speakers. You can see in the thread here: https://lathetrolls.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2945&p=25322#p25322 that the Watts of the speakers and your amplifier should be somewhere in the 20-30 Watt range. There's a lot of other good information in that thread about embossing, which is probably the easiest way to start out with a home-built head and lathe. Actually cutting a groove involves different geometry and higher precision.

Plexiglass and blank PVC (vinyl) are not the best materials to cut or emboss directly. For experimenting with embossing, your best bet is to find a medium-soft plastic, since an embossing stylus literally presses a groove into the surface as it records. A lot of trolls have gotten good results by embossing with old gramophone needles. Others emboss using a plotter blade, or by flipping a cutting stylus backwards.

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Re: help design cutting head

Post: # 25444Unread post mango
Wed May 15, 2013 4:56 am

Ok I see to make do the best for the bur head, in any case, what do you think of the cut on polycarbonate?

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Post: # 25445Unread post chaosbc
Wed May 15, 2013 6:23 am

It seems this is what most people use
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/49941863@N04/sets/72157632396669506/

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Post: # 25448Unread post mango
Wed May 15, 2013 7:10 am

and do you think that has quality? if I wanted to affect my music to do a gig as a DJ would feel much background noise?

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Re: help design cutting head

Post: # 25453Unread post tragwag
Wed May 15, 2013 11:20 am

poly has a noticeable amount of background noise in general.
The only way I could see a discerning DJ playing poly records is if they were cut on a Neumann system, like Todd (opcode66) does.
Check out www.deepgroovesmastering.com

That being said, I cut poly on a Presto 6N with fair results.
I wouldn't say DJ quality, as they are mono, with frequency response up to about 12 kHz depending on the source.
I can cut you a test if you'd like
making lathe cuts on a Presto 6N, HIFI stereo cuts on vinylrecorder
at Audio Geography Studios, Providence, RI USA
http://www.audiogeography.com

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Re: help design cutting head

Post: # 25455Unread post mango
Wed May 15, 2013 11:47 am

yes please do me a very big favor.
Meanwhile, I've got the blades for plotters and I'm abbozando a short head Shortly photos

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Post: # 25472Unread post tragwag
Thu May 16, 2013 10:07 am

feel free to send me an email, tragwag@gmail.com
making lathe cuts on a Presto 6N, HIFI stereo cuts on vinylrecorder
at Audio Geography Studios, Providence, RI USA
http://www.audiogeography.com

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Re: help design cutting head

Post: # 29413Unread post mango
Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:32 am

Hello everyone after a period of abundant catch'm back with my wacky ideas and my lathe.
Since I started this work, I made ​​time to lose all the files made ​​up to now ...
one important thing and that I never said that the project is done entirely with the 3d printer, and I finally found a clever way to make the engraving head.
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Re: help design cutting head

Post: # 29446Unread post chaosbc
Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:29 am

It looks rad !
I just wondered if there is any specific reason why you divided the head in three instead of making one whole part ?
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