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scully LS-76 Nr. 666

Unread postby flozki » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:11 am

hello
just curious if someone on this list has the
Scully LS-76 "the lathe"

Serial Nr. 666 ?

i got nr. 660 and numbers below where made for sure.
not sure where they started with serial numbers and where they stopped.

just curious and i would love to get a picture for my collection.

i guess if it really exists it must belong to a death metal studio.
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Re: scully LS-76 Nr. 666

Unread postby tragwag » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:16 am

flozki wrote:i guess if it really exists it must belong to a death metal studio.

it would only be right! haha
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Unread postby Infrasonic Sound » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:26 pm

I have SN1 but I wish I had 666!

[Edit : It's actually Serial # 651]
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Unread postby flozki » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:25 pm

hmm sure you got number 001?
i dont think he made over 600pcs of the LS-76 lathe

so he might changed the numbering after some time...

would be interesting to find out how many are around.
i heard once that there where only 20-30 of this type...

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Unread postby Nickou » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:18 am

I beleive there is one somewhere around Barcelona

I never took the time to look at it , but if you want I can try to find this guy

he was working at EMI pressing plant of barcelona
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Unread postby audadvnc » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:38 am

We've got S/N 423. It's not an LS-76, it dates from about 1940.
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Unread postby Nickou » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:49 am

It seems tha the sculy wich was used in Bacelona by the EMI has been sold for the price of the metal ...

so we will never know if it was the 666 ... :(
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Unread postby Phinster » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:57 am

Had a guy from LJ Scully trying to sell us one of these back in the mid 70's, when I was at RCA London.

From what I recall , I don't think more than half a dozen were made.

There was also an automated disc mastering console which was meant to be a companion for the machine. It did everything you could want, including printing the invoice at the end of the session!

But I don't believe this was ever put into production. The only LS 76 I ever heard about was the one at Criterion in Miami, or was it Fullersound...
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Unread postby petermontg » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:12 am

Serif here has mike fullers LS 76.
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Unread postby Serif » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:14 am

I was told that the newly formed Fullersound used to be located at Criteria for a period of time. #656 used to be owned by Criteria, originally, and then was owned by Fullersound, at Criteria, but was taken off campus to the present Fullersound location at the time of Mike's move.

THD, in Oslo, has LS-76 #653, which was owned by Mr. Casey, of the Sunshine Band, in the Miami area. It was serviced by Charlie Hertzberg, just like the Criteria lathes. (He also has a beautiful vintage Scully that he's been restoring).

Rhythmshack have an LS-76, down in Florida (along with the sexy Haeco on eBay, now).

Pete Lyman has the first LS-76 made, out at Infrasonic, in L. A. (but also uses a Neumann).

As we know from this thread, Flo has #660 in Solothurn. (But he is using a VMS80 for his pro cutter.)

That's five LS-76 "The Lathe" floor models. Who has the sixth? What is the serial number?



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Unread postby Kris D » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:13 pm

Excellent thread!
I spent some time trying to search out a post I remember reading from years ago to no avail. In it someone stated that two LS76s remained NOS unsold from Scully. I seem to remember the asking price was really high. Maybe it was a dream I had, ring any bells?

I have a friend on the Scully List (mainly tape related, 280s) who told me that Scully lathe number 1 is in the basement of the Scully family home in Bridgeport.

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Unread postby tragwag » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:16 pm

Kris D wrote: ...Scully family home in Bridgeport.


which Bridgeport do you mean?
not Bridgeport, CT surely...
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Unread postby Serif » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:30 am

It's definitely the Bridgeport in CT.

When did Lawrence Jeremiah start designing and when did John J. stop?
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Unread postby Infrasonic Sound » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:53 pm

flozki wrote:hmm sure you got number 001?


I could be wrong. I was told it probably was when I purchased it. Len and I looked for a S/N yesterday and there is nothing stamped anywhere on it! Strange...

Flo, how many ls-76's were made? I thought it was only about 5...
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Unread postby tubefan » Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:43 am

S/N 651 is the first LS-76 according to Chris Scully, grandson... I have no idea what S/N 1 Scully would look like but supposedly 1917 so probably would have the thinner platter for wax, and some sort of mechanical cutterhead...

Interesting patent search results pop up, American Gramophone Company patents, inventor name John J Scully and Frank L Capps, Bridgeport Connecticut, 1914, 1916...
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Unread postby flozki » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:22 pm

so then there are maybe 10 LS76 made. and 2-3 never sold.

if Nr. 651 is the first one
Nr 660 seems to be the last known one.

until we have more information we must assume there where 10 made.
which is also a quite plausible number for a first series.

so Nr.666 doesnt exist. halleluja!
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Unread postby emorritt » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:29 pm

S/N 651 is the first LS-76 according to Chris Scully, grandson... I have no idea what S/N 1 Scully would look like but supposedly 1917 so probably would have the thinner platter for wax, and some sort of mechanical cutterhead...


In my research, I've seen photos like this and with other variations:

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that date from the teens and early 1920's. Definitely looks like a Scully design; do you think Chris could confirm this? I am aware that some mechanical recorders used a flexible tube to connect a recording horn or horns to a recording soundbox, rather than the disc passing under a stationary horn/soundbox assembly per the Lindstrom and other designs.
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Unread postby tubefan » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:22 am

Wow, exciting! I've never seen that before. Is that Scully, or American Gramophone Co.?
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Unread postby emorritt » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:49 pm

I'm assuming you mean American Graphophone; Larry Scully did a lot of designing for AG; e.g. Columbia which is why I'm thinking the machine pictured is one of his early projects. Not sure though.
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Unread postby Serif » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:40 pm

According to R. K. Morrison's book on Disc Recording, it was John J. Scully who made the first Scully-brand acoustic disc wax mastering lathes, including the one with the trolley-car turntable and stationary overhead: Scully #3, from 1920. Am trying to find out when Larry started doing the designs. Prior to LS, I assume, but when?

Also, speaking of that book, I did see the part where RKM mentioned that some early amateur-marketed blank discs were once made of cellulose acetate, just like the radio transcription flexi pressings. (But the pro blanks were always either wax, flowed wax (with gold-sputter follow-up for 'forming), or flash-cotton lacquer).



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