frizzy curly swarf - more weight

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frizzy curly swarf - more weight

Post: # 58824Unread post nikc
Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:34 am

Hey There

I am using a MSS vintage mono lathe with myshank diamond and blanks.
Cutting has been going great, but recently swarf has gone frizzy and curly and not going up the tube!
I am already pressing down with 16grams. so dont want to go too high.
The cuts are still sounding ok if i sweep away the swarf (and get in a big tangles mess).
Oh an i am heating the blanks up to 26 degrees C and using a little stylus heat

Anyone got any ideas?

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Nik
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Re: frizzy curly swarf - more weight

Post: # 58837Unread post handcut
Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:33 am

Are you using any anti-static treatment? It could be humidity-related also. Not too sure about London, but up here we've just gone from a heatwave to unseasonably cool - high humidity to low - so more static. Do you have a microscope? Rather than relying on weight are you able to measure the width/depth of the grooves? Have you changed the angle at all?

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Re: frizzy curly swarf - more weight

Post: # 58846Unread post nikc
Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:21 am

Hi Handcut, Thank you very much the reply.
Yes I am using turtle wax spray for anti-static. The humidity is around 47% the moment, which it good. Though its been hot here (for London) and humid at the same time. sometimes it gets down to 27%.
I do have a normal microscope but not attached to the lathe as cant see how i would get one to see under the MSS cutterhead. But i can look at blanks once they are cut. I could measure the groove width i guess, but how would you measure the groove depth?. The cutting angle is roughly the same but i'll take a closer look.

i will get a photo of the cutterhead

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Nik
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Re: frizzy curly swarf - more weight

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Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:32 am

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Re: frizzy curly swarf - more weight

Post: # 58850Unread post Aussie0zborn
Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:27 am

The microscope goes on the side opposite the head.

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Re: frizzy curly swarf - more weight

Post: # 58851Unread post dmills
Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:46 am

Groove depth is always just under half groove width if the cutter stylus is in even reasonable condition, as the stylus has a 90 degree tip (With a typically 1 micron rounded point, hence the just under).

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Re: frizzy curly swarf - more weight

Post: # 58853Unread post Discomo
Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:13 am

I had a likewise problem but with a VR.
Could only solve it by increasing the weight of the head. Had torque issues as a result and needed to upgrade to a better table with more torque. But this solved the issues with swarf completely. Now at about 21 grams I think.

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Re: frizzy curly swarf - more weight

Post: # 58854Unread post Discomo
Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:21 am

handcut wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:33 am
Rather than relying on weight are you able to measure the width/depth of the grooves?
I’ll be interested to hear how to do this…

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Re: frizzy curly swarf - more weight

Post: # 58855Unread post nikc
Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:19 am

Aussie0zborn wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:27 am
The microscope goes on the side opposite the head.
Thanks i'll look into that.
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Re: frizzy curly swarf - more weight

Post: # 58856Unread post nikc
Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:25 am

dmills wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:46 am
Groove depth is always just under half groove width if the cutter stylus is in even reasonable condition, as the stylus has a 90 degree tip (With a typically 1 micron rounded point, hence the just under).
Thanks that really good to know. What is a goo groove width?
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Re: frizzy curly swarf - more weight

Post: # 58860Unread post nikc
Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:51 am

Hello again
my groove width is roughly 50um. That seems like its in the range of ok. Yes?
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