Using two VR T560 at once?

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Sillas
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Using two VR T560 at once?

Post: # 57122Unread post Sillas
Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:01 pm

Hi,

Was wondering how this is usually done?
Two VR systems getting same audio signal and recording simultaneously? Any tips would be appreciated. :idea:

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Re: Using two VR T560 at once?

Post: # 57128Unread post tragwag
Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:53 pm

hey! I do this every day, it's basically a doubled system.
my audio path looks like this:
first system
audio interface output 1-2 -> souri main unit -> meter -> amp ->fuses -> head

second system
audio interface output 3-4 -> souri main unit -> meter -> amp ->fuses -> head

there's a bit of a lag when dropping the head and cranking the run out groove but it works just fine.
the biggest issue is gathering the chip for both lathes. I've seen another multi-lathe system with two chip jars, but I use one chip jar and a Y-adapter

good luck!
making lathe cuts on a Presto 6N, HIFI stereo cuts on vinylrecorder
at Audio Geography Studios, Providence, RI USA
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Re: Using two VR T560 at once?

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Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:15 am

Saving this!

Thinking about doing the same thing and running with two machines. Obviously it saves a bunch of time for 12” records. Do you use it for all sizes?

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Re: Using two VR T560 at once?

Post: # 57185Unread post Jesus H Chrysler
Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:01 pm

We eliminated Souri's system for a more direct signal path and run all the eq curve stuff in the DAW and just split the signal to the two amps. Took a bit of tinkering to get it dialed in and balanced but sounds great. On the vac side, it's a single vac to a pvc tee to each chip jar.

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Re: Using two VR T560 at once?

Post: # 57257Unread post PMST
Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:22 am

Jesus H Chrysler wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:01 pm
We eliminated Souri's system for a more direct signal path and run all the eq curve stuff in the DAW and just split the signal to the two amps. Took a bit of tinkering to get it dialed in and balanced but sounds great. On the vac side, it's a single vac to a pvc tee to each chip jar.
What vac are you using for this? I'm looking into my 2nd system, likewise do all IRIAA in my DAW, bypassing the main unit. My vac is on the way out so wanted to upgrade so might as well look into one that handles 2 machines well

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Re: Using two VR T560 at once?

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Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:08 am

iamtasha wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:15 am
Saving this!

Thinking about doing the same thing and running with two machines. Obviously it saves a bunch of time for 12” records. Do you use it for all sizes?
Hello LTTG. I have 2 pairs. One vacuum for all 4 of them, 2 swarf jars modded each to look after a pair. A laptop for each pair. But a pair is a big step up at least for a short while until you work out your own workflow.

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Re: Using two VR T560 at once?

Post: # 57259Unread post milepost
Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:12 am

PMST wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:22 am
Jesus H Chrysler wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:01 pm
We eliminated Souri's system for a more direct signal path and run all the eq curve stuff in the DAW and just split the signal to the two amps. Took a bit of tinkering to get it dialed in and balanced but sounds great. On the vac side, it's a single vac to a pvc tee to each chip jar.
What vac are you using for this? I'm looking into my 2nd system, likewise do all IRIAA in my DAW, bypassing the main unit. My vac is on the way out so wanted to upgrade so might as well look into one that handles 2 machines well
I use one Karcher W2 https://www.amazon.co.uk/K%C3%A4rcher-WD2-Vacuum-liters-Yellow/dp/B00GFLG7OG

For 4 machines. Works hard, do not overheat in a box or cupboard and it will last quite a while. I keep a spare always though they are very readily available. You can just open or close the vent at the top of the hose to get it perfect.

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Re: Using two VR T560 at once?

Post: # 58710Unread post Sillas
Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:36 pm

Hi dearest trolls,

Thanks for your answers! Will also check doing all the RIAA conversion in the box (DAW).. What software would you suggest?

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Re: Using two VR T560 at once?

Post: # 58717Unread post PMST
Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:34 am

I used the EQ match is Fab Filter Pro Q to map my heads IRIAA, ive tried it on a few Hrs and each head seems to be slightly different so dont just make a standard IRIAA curve (althugh its reasonably close) but actually match it to program material

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Re: Using two VR T560 at once?

Post: # 58720Unread post aaron
Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:09 am

I cheaper alternative to FabFilter that I use is CurveEQ.

https://www.voxengo.com/product/curveeq/video/

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Re: Using two VR T560 at once?

Post: # 58866Unread post PMST
Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:32 am

For using to VR's with two chip jars, someone 3D printed me a Y adapter for a few euros! Works perfectly. Design below

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3001696?fbclid=IwAR2-DgR2XVbmMvcGSG6u-XFDhfp5XfatiC266ecLJOyvE-nH-phvC7yf_Nc

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