delay for neumann vms 70

[lester]

Hi,

I just installed the system and i'm seeking for a delay solution...
Who is using what overhere?

At this moment i use a TC ELECTRONIC D TWO, but i guess there are better -read cleaner- delays.
Also i have tried to do it in cubase using a soundcard, but i guess i don't know cubase good enough

Any advise?
Thanks

[dietrich10]

Al did his magic????? thats great.

The TC units are really some of the cleaner ones around. I was going to pickup a D Two soon. I had been using a behringer ultracurve 8024 but the sound was terrible.

You can use Cubase as long as you have multiple out soundcard.
Copy same program to two tracks. Shift the track that goes to the Sal by the MS needed. done. I use Logic and each track can have a 'delay'.

Issue I have found that if i decide I need to eq/compress/etc a file last minute that I then need to put the same processing on the pitch computer channel as well.

Transfer console soon i hope with a D Two in the chain.

[motorino]

hello

delay its only use if the varipitch works ok? if you use fixed pitch you dont need the delay in the neumann?

[lester]

right motorino...but the varipitch works, so i better use it!
Also, it seems like a speaker managment system might do the delay job...

[motorino]

enjoy!

[dietrich10]

the D two should be a very clean signal.

[dietrich10]

anyone else with delay advice?

i am thinking D two as well for myself

[Aussie0zborn]

Klark Teknik actually made a digital delay for disc cutting in the '80s. It had two delay times only - one for 45rpm cutting and the second for 33.3rpm. We never actually saw one here in australia but I found the spec sheet last week. I think the price back then was about $AUD 2,500-00.

Any decent digital delay will do the trick. The Neumann manual specifies the delay time for each speed. You can save these delay times as pre-sets and recall them fast.

Be sure it is a real stereo (ie: 2 channel) delay. Some delay units take a stereo input and create a pseudo stereo delay output that is actually out of phase and so it will be impossible to cut this signal.

Rane (USA) makes some good product and you might look at the ADA22 digital delay although others here will have more recent and hands-on experience.

[dietrich10]

+4dBU RMe outputs vs that signal going through a delay signal..

Want to try and compare
Lexicon mpx550
lexicon mpx500
Tc Electronics 1280
TC M300
TC M2000
TC D two
Rane ADA22

[jtransition]

Lexicon MPX500,Its the bomb

[lester]

i got to get my soundcard doing the trick...!
Put a bump box between the card and the lathe and all is cool!
Just need a new suspension box now :-{

[Aussie0zborn]

A new suspension box? For your VMS70? There was one on Ebay last week.

[lester]

yep, i've been putting 400 on it but lost...

[finalstep]

Hello

I use in my studio YAMAHA SPX 2000 for the delay.
I won't use it in the mastering line.
Yes i use it just for the pitch.

CUBASE and DELAY plugg'in for the cutting lathe it's not good solution.
Good Delay is the BEST for your pitch control !

Here's for me

[dietrich10]

[quote="finalstep"]Hello

I use in my studio YAMAHA SPX 2000 for the delay.
I won't use it in the mastering line.
Yes i use it just for the pitch.

so you are using the delay going to the signal for the pitch computer signal?
isn't that opposite?
i delay the program material so that the zuma can catch up. that is the problem though needing the delay at the end of the program signal...

[lester]

Yep Dietrich, ur right i guess; the delayd signal goes to the amps, not to the pitch; the pitch needs to know what's coming so realtime to pitch, delay to amps...Somebody wasn't paying attention during the lessons...Lol

[dietrich10]

just picked up a tc 1280 for the analog chain. curious how it will sound

[Internet]

klark teknik DN-726

Very very good. I've got one here.