Harara [Hara] portable lathe

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Harara [Hara] portable lathe

Post: # 44773Unread post Spiderxdeath
Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:11 pm

Hello guys- how are you? I recently bought this little Harara record lathe. I got some great styli from my shank, a heat lamp, vaccum and everything. But I've had a few hiccups- there is a speed adjustment knob but I just can't nail the right speed. Is there a trick to this? I remember reading it can be done with a flash light. The music is going on there great but I have to slow my turntable down. The other problem was I lost power all completely this morning- it could be the step down adaptor though- it was red hot...
Anyway any help would be great. I live in Sydney Australia- happy to somewhere or have one of you over if you can lend a hand. I'll make you lunch or whatever you like too.
Thanks
James

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Re: Harara portable lathe

Post: # 44777Unread post Aussie0zborn
Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:34 pm

Get the lunch ready, James.

What does a Harara lathe look like?

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Re: Harara portable lathe

Post: # 44784Unread post Spiderxdeath
Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:25 am

The problem is it's running 100v 60hz. I have a step down to play in Australia to 240v. However still after measuring with rpm app it's still a little fast.
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Re: Harara portable lathe

Post: # 44795Unread post powerstrip
Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:09 pm

yeah i was digging through "secrets" section the pther day when i saw your thread - http://www.lathetrolls.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6859&p=44304&hilit=harara#p44304

I'm glad you posted this, I have never heard of this before, even an old timer like aussie0zzborn had not seen one.

I was expecting something along the lines of an atom/vanrock, but this looks as if a vanrock had a child with a radiotone or fairchild.

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Re: Harara portable lathe

Post: # 44796Unread post Spiderxdeath
Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:19 am

It's actually "Hara".

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Post: # 44797Unread post Boydie
Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:29 am

That's a beauty, I just bought an Atom from Japan so about to find out if it works with the step down transformer, I read that newer, 80's, motors might be variable and work off both frequencys, on the way back from the US will post something when I'm home

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Post: # 44807Unread post rsimms3
Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:54 pm

Some good information on this lathe in this thread including a video of one in action:

http://www.lathetrolls.com/viewtopic.php?t=4728

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Re: Harara [Hara] portable lathe

Post: # 44813Unread post Spiderxdeath
Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:08 pm

Cuts great- but still running fast. Even when I sync up rpm app to both Hara lathe and my place back turntable. Not heaps fast about 2.3 ...
Hmmm what to do?

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Re: Harara [Hara] portable lathe

Post: # 44816Unread post Voxster1965
Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:40 pm

Hi there - your answer could be to purchase a UPS.

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Re: Harara [Hara] portable lathe

Post: # 44818Unread post Spiderxdeath
Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:40 pm

Voxster1965 wrote:Hi there - your answer could be to purchase a UPS.
What is a UPS?

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Re: Harara [Hara] portable lathe

Post: # 44819Unread post MEGAMIKE
Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:54 pm

hi James
try matching the audio to the turntable speed..
one of my 6ns does this and i have to change the pitch on sound forge before i cut
however i cannot do real time cuts with it.

megalove

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Post: # 44821Unread post Voxster1965
Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:30 am

Here you go spiderxdeath

http://www.50hz60hz.com/

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Re: Harara [Hara] portable lathe

Post: # 44822Unread post Spiderxdeath
Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:51 am

Holy cow- it's expensive

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Re: Harara [Hara] portable lathe

Post: # 44830Unread post Spiderxdeath
Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:04 pm

MEGAMIKE wrote:hi James
try matching the audio to the turntable speed..
one of my 6ns does this and i have to change the pitch on sound forge before i cut
however i cannot do real time cuts with it.

megalove
I'll have a go - thanks mate. How spot on can you get it?

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Re: Harara portable lathe

Post: # 44831Unread post Spiderxdeath
Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:32 pm

Boydie wrote:That's a beauty, I just bought an Atom from Japan so about to find out if it works with the step down transformer, I read that newer, 80's, motors might be variable and work off both frequencys, on the way back from the US will post something when I'm home
How did you go mate?

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Re: Harara [Hara] portable lathe

Post: # 44832Unread post Spiderxdeath
Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:33 pm

My transformer is 115 an not 100. Would that be the issue?

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Re: Harara [Hara] portable lathe

Post: # 44968Unread post Spiderxdeath
Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:04 am

I opened her up and this is the motor. Also I got a new transformer 100v not 115.
Still some issues- runs a little too fast.
Any ideas?
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Re: Harara [Hara] portable lathe

Post: # 44969Unread post markrob
Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:47 pm

Hi,

Are you 50 or 60 hz power in your location? If you look at the motor you will see the speed varies for each line frequency. I'm assuming there must be a mechanical adjustment in the lathe to compensate for the speed difference. This may be as simple as a stepped pulley or drive/ idler wheel. It may have been done at the factory based on sale country. Does the lathe have rating plate on the outside that indicates line voltage and frequency? Is the speed difference you are seeing about what the motor indicates. If not, then you may have some other mechanical issue.

Mark

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Re: Harara [Hara] portable lathe

Post: # 44995Unread post Spiderxdeath
Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:51 am

Hi everyone- found a switch to change the Hz.
Ah what a dummy- thanks for your help.
Love you all...

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Re: Harara [Hara] portable lathe

Post: # 52132Unread post TonyD
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:58 pm

I'm having a similar issue with my matsusho disk is how did you fix this?

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