Building a console for a Presto 6N

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Building a console for a Presto 6N

Post: # 25890Unread post Steve E.
Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:08 pm

The time has come for me to mount my Presto 6N into a better console or cabinet. It was common for them to be mounted into a Gates console:

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Here's Ann Hamilton's presto lathe from "Event of a Thread". I think it was in an original Presto console. (image by Eli.)

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Currently I have mine dropped into an Ikea cabinet on wheels, where it sits about 3 feet above ground. It is a strain on my back to bend over to use it, and I suspect it is prone to resonances from the furniture itself. It is poorly isolated from the ground, too.

I'd probably either build it from scratch or find a taller piece of furniture to repurpose.

Has anyone taken on such a project? Can anyone recommend some do's and don'ts? What should I keep in mind as I do this? What's an optimal height?

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Re: Building a console for a Presto 6N

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Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:17 pm

I plan on building a console just like that. My suggestion might be to see if you can find an enclosure and cut it down. Then use fill in panels.
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Re: Building a console for a Presto 6N

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Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:45 pm

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Presto 'A' is mounted in this cabinet.
Within a couple weeks, our Presto 'B' will be mounted in the free space to the current 6N's left.

I like this cabinet, because its a great height.
It also leaves plenty of space for storage and rack gear.
At the moment I've got the 92 series amp, a power conditioner, a rackmount parametric EQ, and a modern stereo power amp in one side of bottom cabinet.
I keep my blanks/feedscrews and other materials in the other side.
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Re: Building a console for a Presto 6N

Post: # 25898Unread post Steve E.
Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:52 pm

Great! that's the kind of data I want.

Is this the one I have seen?

Just how tall is it?

Are you using any sort of insulation between the lathe and the cabinet, and between the cabinet and the floor?

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Re: Building a console for a Presto 6N

Post: # 25899Unread post tragwag
Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:28 pm

Yes, you've seen this one.
I like it because there is some space around the lathe to put things, whereas the other consoles look like they just house the chassis and thats all.

I'll get measurements later, but I'm guessing its about 3-4 ft high, about 4 feet long, and about 2 feet deep.

I don't use any isolation, it hasn't been a problem with the lathe cuts.
I assume if I was cutting lacquers on these machines that it'd be a bigger deal.
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Re: Building a console for a Presto 6N

Post: # 25900Unread post Steve E.
Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:27 pm

A little bird told me --a big bird, really-- to check out isolators from Mason Industries, on Long Island.

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Re: Building a console for a Presto 6N

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Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:31 am

I heard from a son of an old studio guy, that they would set a lathe console into a container of sand for isolation. I don't know how well that worked.
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Re: Building a console for a Presto 6N

Post: # 25922Unread post Angus McCarthy
Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:57 pm

I've got mine set up on a hefty wooden frame - the box it's mounted in rests on top of four treated 4x4 posts, so I can lift it off if need be - the whole thing on heavy-duty castors. The mass alone keeps things from resonating, even though these are wooden floors. I'm not apt to move around the room too much when making a cut anyway. The platter sits about four feet off the ground, and it's right at eye level when I sit next to it.

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Re: Building a console for a Presto 6N

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Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:04 am

I built mine into a flight case with a steel place mounted, so the presto would mount on the plate. Easily to pack up for moving. Just removed the overhead and close up the flight case.

Might be another Idea.
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Re: Building a console for a Presto 6N

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Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:46 pm

a current picture of the double 6N cabinet.
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Once a get a better camera, i'll try to do a panorama of the whole room.
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Re: Building a console for a Presto 6N

Post: # 26183Unread post JayDC
Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:56 pm

steve, I was going to use a kitchen sink cabinet and a nice hard wood counter top... sink cabinets are built stronger, and if your lucky you can find a steel "geneva" one from the 60's..
generally its for reproduction.. but i like to play wif it sometimes.. :P

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